Eeeeeeww The Butchers! Yuk! Being a non believer in the real ale drinkers elitism and a comitted chemical stuffed Lager or Cider drinker (and proud!!) I avoid Sam Smith's houses like the plague! I find all their own branded products undrinkable! (All IMHO of course)
'Spoons comes in for some stick, but plenty of choice and at the end of the day, beats the pishy smelling, malevolent griefhole the Black Bull had become!! Speaking of which, when fueled on a bit of dutch courage from Spoons, I quite like the Worlds End and the irony that it has become a pishy smelling, malevolent grief hole isn't lost on me!